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mchicken is dejected.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Attack Ad Reply with quote

I just saw my first attack ad for the presidential race:



John McCain is a bit of a bastard. And apparently Hillary Clinton is a dirty hippie who married a draft dodging, faithless, hamburgler.

My question is, do these people know or not know whether they're eventually going to run for president? Shouldn't they shape their entire career with that goal in mind, and not do silly things that can cost them votes or leave them open to attacks like this?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh... I know a bunch of people back in 2000, dirty hippies if you will, who, while Democrats, voted in the Republican primary and would've voted for McCain had he gotten the nomination. I've gathered that they're less enthralled with him these days.
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mchicken is dejected.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xavid wrote:
Heh... I know a bunch of people back in 2000, dirty hippies if you will, who, while Democrats, voted in the Republican primary and would've voted for McCain had he gotten the nomination. I've gathered that they're less enthralled with him these days.


From what I understand from watching The West Wing twice, political advisers cause candidates to change their stances to whatever they think will get the most votes. Appealing to the Republican base in this case, by McCain.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
From what I understand from watching The West Wing twice, political advisers cause candidates to change their stances to whatever they think will get the most votes. Appealing to the Republican base in this case, by McCain.


Are you trying to tell me that you wouldn't change your stance on an issue at the advice of this guy:



I know I would
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby typically avoided doing that sort of thing. He was more of a "stand up for what you believe in and try and convince other people it's right" kind of guy. I was talking more about Arnold Vinick/Alan Alda's advisers who told him that he should move to the right away from his centrist position and court the anti-abortion and religious vote.
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