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mchicken is dejected.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kallie wrote:
Really more of a kilt.


Which is a plaid skirt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rmoak.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kallie wrote:
Rmoak.


What?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
kallie wrote:
Rmoak.


What?


Really more of a kilt?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what you're talking about… so here's REHughes next to a dino
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really more of a boxturtle.

...except it's a kilt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That thing is a skirt. It can be both a skirt and a kilt, but it's definitely a skirt. That doesn't necessarily make it any less manly in this case.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kallie wrote:
xavid wrote:
Also, some places it's theoretically illegal to discriminate based on sex when hiring.


Also, men are just superior coaches.


Sigh

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaster wrote:
mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


qft


Seriously. Also, men are just better coaches.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kallie wrote:
jaster wrote:
mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


qft


Seriously. Also, men are just better coaches.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

epb wrote:
kallie wrote:
jaster wrote:
mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


qft


Seriously. Also, men are just better coaches.




I don't know where she gets her facts from. The only evidence I have is the number of NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB/MLS/anything female head coaches. It's precisely zero. If women were better coaches they'd probably be coaching at least one of those teams. I'm pretty sure she's right, in that men are strictly better at coaching men's professional sports, for a variety of reasons. There's no way a woman would be able to get in the face of a guy worked up from nearly killing someone on the football field and force the guy to back down.

The open question would be who is better at coaching women's teams. I think it will take a single combat battle to the death between Geno Auriemma and Pat Summit to settle that one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
epb wrote:
kallie wrote:
jaster wrote:
mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


qft


Seriously. Also, men are just better coaches.




I don't know where she gets her facts from. The only evidence I have is the number of NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB/MLS/anything female head coaches. It's precisely zero. If women were better coaches they'd probably be coaching at least one of those teams. I'm pretty sure she's right, in that men are strictly better at coaching men's professional sports, for a variety of reasons. There's no way a woman would be able to get in the face of a guy worked up from nearly killing someone on the football field and force the guy to back down.

The open question would be who is better at coaching women's teams. I think it will take a single combat battle to the death between Geno Auriemma and Pat Summit to settle that one.


Based on first hand experience, men.

And the fact that there are many men coaching professional women's teams.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
epb wrote:
kallie wrote:
jaster wrote:
mchicken wrote:
Blue is for boys, pink is for girls. Bears and dogs are for boys, cats and rabbits are for girls.


qft


Seriously. Also, men are just better coaches.




I don't know where she gets her facts from. The only evidence I have is the number of NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB/MLS/anything female head coaches. It's precisely zero. If women were better coaches they'd probably be coaching at least one of those teams. I'm pretty sure she's right, in that men are strictly better at coaching men's professional sports, for a variety of reasons. There's no way a woman would be able to get in the face of a guy worked up from nearly killing someone on the football field and force the guy to back down.

The open question would be who is better at coaching women's teams. I think it will take a single combat battle to the death between Geno Auriemma and Pat Summit to settle that one.


Actually, the disapproval face was directed at all three of you. Though, I think you were being somewhat sarcastic about the blue-is-for-boys-rabbits-are-for-girls thing, Vernon less so, and I think Kallie was mostly serious about the coaching thing.

But seriously, is first hand experience the best litmus test here? I know none of you would dispute that it isn't. Data points, validity, power, bias, yada yada. But even if you want to judge skill or ability based on the number of female coaches... that can be inaccurate too. Look at the number of female doctors, or non-white doctors, especially 50 years ago when the numbers were closer to 0. (And I'm assuming none of you think that white men are superior doctors.... but just in case, here's a preemptive disapproving emoticon: .)

Look, I can see why women could be worse at coaching in practice.... but these sweeping generalizations are problematic, especially if they're based on personal experience or on some kind of assumption that if women were good at X, then more of them would be doing it.

Lastly, this article discusses female coaching and mentions public breast feeding right in the first paragraph. Heh.
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