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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Friday Presidential Debate Reply with quote

I really want to watch this, but I don't have a tv...

I remember other debates being very fun to watch in the company of DOOMCom...

Do you want to watch Friday? In DOOMCom? After the barbecue?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just about to post this, although it was going to be a mention of the event rather than an R&D post.

For future reference, you can watch the debates via online live streams. E.g., on the new MySpace sponsored page, MyDebates.org.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That being said, it would be kind of fun to watch the debates together. I'll offer up my room for the viewing if anyone wants to come.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lizakova wrote:
That being said, it would be kind of fun to watch the debates together. I'll offer up my room for the viewing if anyone wants to come.


Bold.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could get firmly behind this. Sounds like good times.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owned:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a clever stunt. Does he realize that he's not in a position to solve the problem in any reasonable time-frame?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just won him the election.

Game over.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...this is like Arnie Vinick campaigning on Latino issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are so doomed.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaster wrote:
Owned:



We're toootally fucked.

It turns out that Obama was taking time off to prepare for the debate...

And now he looks like a jackass.

What a fucking cock.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Paul wrote:
Dear Friends,

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.

The events of the past week are no exception.

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress' throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! "This is welfare for the rich," he said. "This is socialism for the rich. It's bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall Streeters."

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we're being told it's unavoidable.

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences - predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics - are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!

The Treasury Secretary is authorized to purchase up to $700 billion in mortgage-related assets at any one time. That means $700 billion is only the very beginning of what will hit us.

Financial institutions are "designated as financial agents of the Government." This is the New Deal to end all New Deals. Then there's this: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency." Translation: the Secretary can buy up whatever junk debt he wants to, burden the American people with it, and be subject to no one in the process.

There goes your country.

Even some so-called free-market economists are calling all this "sadly necessary." Sad, yes. Necessary? Don't make me laugh.

Our one-party system is complicit in yet another crime against the American people. The two major party candidates for president themselves initially indicated their strong support for bailouts of this kind - another example of the big choice we're supposedly presented with this November: yes or yes. Now, with a backlash brewing, they're not quite sure what their views are. A sad display, really.

Although the present bailout package is almost certainly not the end of the political atrocities we'll witness in connection with the crisis, time is short. Congress may vote as soon as tomorrow. With a Rasmussen poll finding support for the bailout at an anemic seven percent, some members of Congress are afraid to vote for it. Call them! Let them hear from you! Tell them you will never vote for anyone who supports this atrocity.
The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and media have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans are about to be looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall Street and in government? Do we care?

When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics and the media?

Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are, and what kind of country we shall be.

In liberty,

Ron Paul


Sigh...

Why didn't I vote for this guy?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kallie wrote:
Why didn't I vote for this guy?


...because, in his hour of need, you thrice forsook him?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before the rooster crowed twice?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting a Ron Paul bumper sticker now.
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