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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Cardinal Directions Reply with quote

So I'm playing this series of games from the second greatest shareware developer (behind Ambrosia), Spiderweb Software. It looks like this:



As you can see, things are rotated 45 degrees, and CLEARLY there are direction indicators at the corners, so you know which way is which.

So I'm following a walkthrough as necessary, and the guy who wrote is has NO idea what directions are. Every time he says south, that could mean either south, east, or west, depending, apparently, on his mood as he wrote it. THE DIRECTIONS ARE ON THE SCREEN...JUST READ THEM! I honestly don't know how he could get it wrong, and wrong in a different way every single time, but I do know that any direction listed in it will be wrong most of the time. It is incredibly frustrating, and as is the case with most of these things, he wrote 3 of the 5 walkthroughs for the series of games. I don't know if I'm going to make it without going insane, and without forgetting what cardinal directions are. And that would betray my Native American heritage.

So basically, "Matt P." is an Indian-hating, directionless monster.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really couldn't get into those games when I tried em.

Maybe you could, you know, try it without a walkthrough. Real Native Americans don't use walkthroughs, they are too busy smoking pipes and shoving hooks through their chests.

And what's with that guy named Mycroft?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lugo wrote:
And what's with that guy named Mycroft?


I don't know but that's the default name (the picture is from Wikipedia).

I played the original versions (Exile) about 10 years ago so I have a big soft spot in my heart for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like a true Native American wouldn't bother with cardinal directions and would just use the position of the sun to pinpoint exactly where he is, where he was, and where he will ever be.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lizakova wrote:
I feel like a true Native American wouldn't bother with cardinal directions and would just use the position of the sun to pinpoint exactly where he is, where he was, and where he will ever be.


Native Americans love the number four, and they love cardinal directions. Their doors face east for the sunrise.

There's a fancy chart about it on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_directions#Americas

(I am part of the "Sioux" line (Santee Sioux) and the reservation my mom and I lived on would be part of the "Lakota" line (Sicangu)).

Look, I was there when the Sicangu built their casino, and we drove through my mom's people's town to see their casino as well, it doesn't get more Native American than that.

And also your plan doesn't work at night. But I guess at that point we would just turn into a bear or a wolf or our spirit animal or whatever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
And also your plan doesn't work at night.


Look, man up to stars.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchicken wrote:
But I guess at that point we would just turn into a bear or a wolf or our spirit animal or whatever.


Look, I read Twilight. I know what you people do when no one's looking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lizakova wrote:
mchicken wrote:
But I guess at that point we would just turn into a bear or a wolf or our spirit animal or whatever.


Look, I read Twilight. I know what you people do when no one's looking.


Neither Native Americans nor vampires are going to support that trash. It dishonors all of our and their good names.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How Native American do you need to be to count as Native American anyway?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hankr wrote:
How Native American do you need to be to count as Native American anyway?


25% of a single tribe to be a member of that tribe is typical. Therefore, I am not a member, while my mother is. My grandmother was 100% Native American, just not 100% of a single tribe.

Fake New England casino tribes you only have to be like .5%.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently my paternal grandmother was either full or half Native American. I don't know any more, because knowing more would require talking to my father, and I'm really not sure it's worth the awkwardness.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hankr wrote:
Apparently my paternal grandmother was either full or half Native American. I don't know any more, because knowing more would require talking to my father, and I'm really not sure it's worth the awkwardness.


What does that last bit mean?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't meet my father (that I remember) until I was 14, and I've only seen him maybe five times since then. It doesn't help that half the time I talk to him it's because my mother called him to get him to call me so he could convince me to do something that she wanted me to do. Even though I don't really know him at all, so it's the rough equivalent of some random guy on the street walking up to me and ordering me around. Any phone call with him is just so....awkward. I'm not sure me calling him up and asking about his dead mother's ethnicity would make anything better. Though, on the other hand, he might appreciate me taking interest in his side of the family at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. Also that story is very odd. I guess Chris Rock was right.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I wish I had a secret mystery Indian grandma.
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